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TouchPad Driver for Dell Latitude E5430 Laptop
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j***@verizon.net
2020-12-27 15:45:07 UTC
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Hi,

I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.

There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
I searched for a driver such as Synaptics, but only found drivers
for Microsoft Windows.

Does anyone know of a source?

Thank You in advance, John
J.O. Aho
2020-12-27 22:29:01 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
Hi,
I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.
There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
Depending on your desktop environment you should have a touchpad
specific settings with options for tap to click. If you happen to use
KDE Plasma5, then the settings are quite simple to find:

1. Select the System settings from your start menu
2. Scroll down to "Input Devices" and click on it
3. From the new sub-menu select "Touchpad"
4. In the "Taps" tab you will find the first options to be "Tap to
click", change those values to none or adjust the "single tap timeout"
which is the last option.
Post by j***@verizon.net
I searched for a driver such as Synaptics, but only found drivers
for Microsoft Windows.
The drivers are part of the Linux kernel and are named synaptics_i2c and
synaptics_usb, which should have been automatically loaded (you can look
for the drivers with the console command lsmod).

There is also the xf86-input-synaptics driver for Xorg.

I do think all of the drivers are loaded, or else you would have asked
how to get the touchpad to work.
--
//Aho
j***@verizon.net
2021-01-02 12:43:05 UTC
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Post by J.O. Aho
Post by j***@verizon.net
I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.
There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
Depending on your desktop environment you should have a touchpad
specific settings with options for tap to click. If you happen to use
1. Select the System settings from your start menu
2. Scroll down to "Input Devices" and click on it
3. From the new sub-menu select "Touchpad"
4. In the "Taps" tab you will find the first options to be "Tap to
click", change those values to none or adjust the "single tap timeout"
which is the last option.
I could NOT find "Input Devices" (AntiX 19.2 rox-icewm) using your
procedure.

I found, "Synaptic Package Manager" with a HUGE variety of "stuff"
under various categories such as "Amateur Radio", "Communication", etc.
I did NOT find a category relating to the Touchpad.

Again Thank You , John
Carlos E.R.
2021-01-02 13:50:33 UTC
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Post by J.O. Aho
Post by j***@verizon.net
I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.
There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
Depending on your desktop environment you should have a touchpad
specific settings with options for tap to click. If you happen to use
1. Select the System settings from your start menu
2. Scroll down to "Input Devices" and click on it
3. From the new sub-menu select "Touchpad"
4. In the "Taps" tab you will find the first options to be "Tap to
click", change those values to none or adjust the "single tap timeout"
which is the last option.
I could NOT find "Input Devices" (AntiX 19.2 rox-icewm) using your
procedure.
I found, "Synaptic Package Manager"
No, that's not it.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
J.O. Aho
2021-01-02 14:41:11 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
Post by J.O. Aho
Post by j***@verizon.net
I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.
There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
Depending on your desktop environment you should have a touchpad
specific settings with options for tap to click. If you happen to use
1. Select the System settings from your start menu
2. Scroll down to "Input Devices" and click on it
3. From the new sub-menu select "Touchpad"
4. In the "Taps" tab you will find the first options to be "Tap to
click", change those values to none or adjust the "single tap timeout"
which is the last option.
I could NOT find "Input Devices" (AntiX 19.2 rox-icewm) using your
procedure.
The example was specific for KDE Plasma, things are different in
different desktop environments and wm do not incorporate any such
configuration at all. As far as I know rox+icewm do not supply any
configuration for the synaptics touchpad, so you will need to configure
your Xorg manually

Much depends on how the Xorg is configured in AntiX, either it's a
monolithic configuration /etc/X11/xorg.conf or stripped down
configurations sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

The avaible options you can pick from you will find at the following web
page: https://jlk.fjfi.cvut.cz/arch/manpages/man/synaptics.4

Your configuration could be something like (example don't really solve
your problem):

Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "3"
Option "TapButton3" "2"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "on"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "CircularScrolling" "on"
Option "CircScrollTrigger" "2"
Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" "40"
Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinW" "8"
Option "CoastingSpeed" "0"
Option "FingerLow" "30"
Option "FingerHigh" "50"
Option "MaxTapTime" "1"
EndSection

When yo do the configuration changes, it will be applied at startup of
Xorg and any change you make will require a restart of Xorg.



For more details how to configure things, please visit the Arch Linux
wiki page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics

There are some tools listed for configuring the touchpad, but in your
setup they will just be temporary changes, which you would need to
script when you start rox, but those changes you make do not require a
restart of Xorg.
Post by j***@verizon.net
I found, "Synaptic Package Manager" with a HUGE variety of "stuff"
under various categories such as "Amateur Radio", "Communication", etc.
No, synaptic is a package manager and has nothing to do with synaptics
(the s in the end makes big difference). Synaptic package manager is
used to install, update and uninstall applications on your system.
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//Aho
j***@verizon.net
2021-01-05 12:30:19 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
Post by J.O. Aho
Post by j***@verizon.net
I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.
There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
Depending on your desktop environment you should have a touchpad
specific settings with options for tap to click. If you happen to use
1. Select the System settings from your start menu
2. Scroll down to "Input Devices" and click on it
3. From the new sub-menu select "Touchpad"
4. In the "Taps" tab you will find the first options to be "Tap to
click", change those values to none or adjust the "single tap timeout"
which is the last option.
I could NOT find "Input Devices" (AntiX 19.2 rox-icewm) using your
procedure.
The example was specific for KDE Plasma, things are different in
different desktop environments and wm do not incorporate any such
configuration at all. As far as I know rox+icewm do not supply any
configuration for the synaptics touchpad, so you will need to configure
your Xorg manually
Much depends on how the Xorg is configured in AntiX, either it's a
monolithic configuration /etc/X11/xorg.conf or stripped down
configurations sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
The avaible options you can pick from you will find at the following web
page: https://jlk.fjfi.cvut.cz/arch/manpages/man/synaptics.4
Your configuration could be something like (example don't really solve
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "3"
Option "TapButton3" "2"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "on"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "CircularScrolling" "on"
Option "CircScrollTrigger" "2"
Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" "40"
Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinW" "8"
Option "CoastingSpeed" "0"
Option "FingerLow" "30"
Option "FingerHigh" "50"
Option "MaxTapTime" "1"
EndSection
Hi,
I could NOT find anything similar to what you described above.

I think I found a "Config" once (searched for something else), but could
not locate that "Config" again.

This "Config" was a list in text format for various parameters, I
believe.

Thanks again for your efforts to help, John
J.O. Aho
2021-01-05 13:40:34 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
Post by J.O. Aho
Post by j***@verizon.net
Post by J.O. Aho
Post by j***@verizon.net
I have a Dell Latitude E5430 laptop with Antix 19.2 version
of Linux installed.
There is NO way to disable the "touch click" via Mouse setting,
Depending on your desktop environment you should have a touchpad
specific settings with options for tap to click. If you happen to use
1. Select the System settings from your start menu
2. Scroll down to "Input Devices" and click on it
3. From the new sub-menu select "Touchpad"
4. In the "Taps" tab you will find the first options to be "Tap to
click", change those values to none or adjust the "single tap timeout"
which is the last option.
I could NOT find "Input Devices" (AntiX 19.2 rox-icewm) using your
procedure.
The example was specific for KDE Plasma, things are different in
different desktop environments and wm do not incorporate any such
configuration at all. As far as I know rox+icewm do not supply any
configuration for the synaptics touchpad, so you will need to configure
your Xorg manually
Much depends on how the Xorg is configured in AntiX, either it's a
monolithic configuration /etc/X11/xorg.conf or stripped down
configurations sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
The avaible options you can pick from you will find at the following web
page: https://jlk.fjfi.cvut.cz/arch/manpages/man/synaptics.4
Your configuration could be something like (example don't really solve
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "touchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "3"
Option "TapButton3" "2"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "on"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "on"
Option "CircularScrolling" "on"
Option "CircScrollTrigger" "2"
Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" "40"
Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinW" "8"
Option "CoastingSpeed" "0"
Option "FingerLow" "30"
Option "FingerHigh" "50"
Option "MaxTapTime" "1"
EndSection
Hi,
I could NOT find anything similar to what you described above.
I think I found a "Config" once (searched for something else), but could
not locate that "Config" again.
For xorg it's either or a combination of
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*

you will see them if you run the following in a terminal/console:
find /etc/X11/xorg.conf*

It could be that you run wayland instead of Xorg, in that case I think
your only option would be using the synclinet command and script it to
be executed when you login.

Maybe you can get some help of this page
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/hardware/dell-xps/
sure it's for the XPS and not the E5430. Myself I have an E5420, but I
run KDE on it so I have a graphical configuration for the synaptics.
Post by j***@verizon.net
This "Config" was a list in text format for various parameters, I
believe.
Yes, they are simple text files with a slim syntax.
--
//Aho
j***@verizon.net
2021-01-09 15:23:52 UTC
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Post by J.O. Aho
find /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
UPDATE so far:

I got a list of 3 lines, one of those lines:
"/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf" (using "ROXTerm")

When I entered above line.
I got a "Permission denied" message.

Again, Thanks for your help, John
Post by J.O. Aho
It could be that you run wayland instead of Xorg, in that case I think
your only option would be using the synclinet command and script it to
be executed when you login.
Maybe you can get some help of this page
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/hardware/dell-xps/
sure it's for the XPS and not the E5430. Myself I have an E5420, but I
run KDE on it so I have a graphical configuration for the synaptics.
Post by j***@verizon.net
This "Config" was a list in text format for various parameters, I
believe.
Yes, they are simple text files with a slim syntax.
J.O. Aho
2021-01-09 22:35:25 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
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Post by J.O. Aho
find /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
"/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf" (using "ROXTerm")
When I entered above line.
I got a "Permission denied" message.
You can't execute a configuration file, if you want to edit it you need
to be root

sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf

that way you can edit in a terminal/console. If you want to use another
program than nano, then change to the editor you are more used to use,
but don't use a office application like Libreoffice as there is a risk
that you save it as something else than pure text.
--
//Aho
J.O. Aho
2021-01-09 22:37:35 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
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Post by J.O. Aho
find /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
"/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf" (using "ROXTerm")
  When I entered above line.
   I got a "Permission denied" message.
You can't execute a configuration file, if you want to edit it you need
to be root
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf
that way you can edit in a terminal/console. If you want to use another
program than nano, then change to the editor you are more used to use,
but don't use a office application like Libreoffice as there is a risk
that you save it as something else than pure text.
Forgot to say it can be good to make a backup of the file before you edit it

sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf /etc/X11/synaptics.conf.bup

so if something goes wronge then you can restore the old config with:

sudo cp /etc/X11/synaptics.conf.bup /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf
--
//Aho
j***@verizon.net
2021-01-22 13:07:29 UTC
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Post by J.O. Aho
You can't execute a configuration file, if you want to edit it you need
to be root
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf
that way you can edit in a terminal/console. If you want to use another
program than nano, then change to the editor you are more used to use,
but don't use a office application like Libreoffice as there is a risk
that you save it as something else than pure text.
Sorry for delay. I got involved in other projects (done).

In terminal (ROXterm), I typed:
" sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf"

Next, I saw "[sudo] password for John: ". I tried typing the password,
but NOTHING happens! The cursor keeps flashing and does NOT move
when I type! It is as though my keyboard is "dead"

Thanks in advance, John
Aragorn
2021-01-22 13:39:23 UTC
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<SNIP>
Post by J.O. Aho
You can't execute a configuration file, if you want to edit it you
need to be root
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf
that way you can edit in a terminal/console. If you want to use
another program than nano, then change to the editor you are more
used to use, but don't use a office application like Libreoffice as
there is a risk that you save it as something else than pure text.
Sorry for delay. I got involved in other projects (done).
" sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf"
Next, I saw "[sudo] password for John: ". I tried typing the
password, but NOTHING happens! The cursor keeps flashing and does
NOT move when I type! It is as though my keyboard is "dead"
This is normal and intentional. You do not want anyone over your
shoulder to see your password, do you? ;)

Just type your password at the password prompt and press Enter.
--
With respect,
= Aragorn =
j***@verizon.net
2021-01-22 18:13:45 UTC
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Post by Aragorn
Post by j***@verizon.net
" sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf"
Next, I saw "[sudo] password for John: ". I tried typing the
password, but NOTHING happens! The cursor keeps flashing and does
NOT move when I type! It is as though my keyboard is "dead"
This is normal and intentional. You do not want anyone over your
shoulder to see your password, do you? ;)
Just type your password at the password prompt and press Enter.
I tried again and it "worked". Note: Displaying "****" (instead of typed
password) would have been a BIG help.

Now I see "GNU nano 3.2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf"
near top of screen.

In the window below is 'Section "InputClass".
Next line: 'Identifier "Touchpad" # required'
'MastchIsTouchpad "yes"
'Driver "Synaptics" ''
-----
-----
'Option "TapButton1" "1"
'Option "TapButton2" "2" # multitouch'
'Option "TapButton3" "3" # multitouch'
and several more lines of other options.

IMPORTANT: What do I do to disable Tap Click?

Thanks in advance, John
Carlos E.R.
2021-01-22 20:06:46 UTC
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Post by j***@verizon.net
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Post by Aragorn
Post by j***@verizon.net
" sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf"
Next, I saw "[sudo] password for John: ". I tried typing the
password, but NOTHING happens! The cursor keeps flashing and does
NOT move when I type! It is as though my keyboard is "dead"
This is normal and intentional. You do not want anyone over your
shoulder to see your password, do you? ;)
Just type your password at the password prompt and press Enter.
I tried again and it "worked". Note: Displaying "****" (instead of typed
password) would have been a BIG help.
And tells a bystander over your shoulder how many chars the password has.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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